Fatigue and Chest Pain

6 months since diagnosis...

4 months since surgery...

6 weeks since last radiation treatment...

4 weeks since starting Tamoxifen...

2.5 weeks back at work...

Towards the end of my medical leave I was starting to feel better and things were looking up.  Then I started working again and things took an abrupt turn for the worst.  If I had any fatigue when I wasn't working, it wasn't noticeable.  Since starting work though, I became much more fatigued.  Is it possible to be this tired from 8 hours at a desk job?  I can barely get through my work day and by the time I'm done I don't have energy for much else.  On the weekends after my long morning walks, I end up in bed for a few hours - too tired to do anything else.  There was at least one day where I had to take the day off of work.  There were many more days I wished I could rest.  

The fatigue was one thing, but I also started developing chest pains on the cancer side. This wasn't coming from the surgical sites.  It felt more muscular, in the chest wall.  It was isolated to the upper left quadrant of the right breast - not too far from the heart.  The pain was a dull ache that felt like pressure on my chest on one side.  It started about a month ago but it was mild then.  Now it is getting very uncomfortable and worrisome.  I reached out to all of my doctors.

The surgeon thought it was inflammation from the radiation.

Oncology suggested getting an EKG and going off of Tamoxifen for couple of weeks to see if it helps with the fatigue.

Radiation oncology didn't think it was radiation related.  Told me to take anti-inflammatories and rest more.

The PCP wants to let my cancer team handle this since it's probably related to the treatments.

I decided to take oncology's advice and stopped Tamoxifen yesterday.  Then I went to a walk-in facility and got an EKG, Tropnin (heart enzyme) test, and chest x-rays.  All were normal so thankfully it was not a heart issue.  It was getting to a point where I needed to have some relief, so I popped a few ibuprofens.  After some time, I started to feel better.  I was also sleeping pretty well until a smoke alarm started beeping due to low battery.  I had to get up and rip the alarm off the ceiling and pull the batteries out so it would shut up.  Then I couldn't get back to sleep.  But I digress.

Anyway, I will be popping ibuprofen for a while and cut back on my exercises.  On the 21st I have a CT scan so hopefully I'll have a better idea of what is going on then.  If I'm lucky I'll feel better by then, but it seems inflammation can take weeks or months to heal.  I really don't think I can go on like this for months.  

Second Oncology Consult

I walked in to my oncologists office and there was about 100 people in the waiting room.  The oncologists see patients with all sorts of cancers so they are always busy, but they were particularly backed up today.  It took more than two hours before I actually got to see the doctor.  

He recalled from my previous appointment that I did not want to do radiation or take the medication, so he was pleasantly surprised that I had finished my radiation treatment and I was now willing to take the medication.  He thought he was going to have a "battle" with me.  With no battle being necessary, he said to start Tamoxifen today and I would see him in 2-3 months for blood work and follow-up.  He seemed eager to leave it at that but oh no.  I waited two hours to see him and I had questions. 

I learned from my radiation experience that the doctors do not necessarily prepare you for the worst case scenario.  I wanted to know all about the bad side effects of Tamoxifen.  Hot flashes and vaginal dryness is all he would tell me though, since that's what most women seem to experience.  There are women in the Tamoxifen support groups on Facebook with all sorts of horrible side effects from Tamoxifen, but he didn't go into any of them.  Soon as I stopped talking he says, "I'll see you in two months."  I wasn't done yet though.

Given I didn't do the sentinel node biopsy, I was concerned about potential spread.  I asked about an MRI or PET scan, but since I had early stage breast cancer he did not think they were necessary since they are not good at picking up microscopic cancer cells.  If there was anything in the lymph nodes, the radiation would have taken care of it... supposedly.  I'm glad he was so confident I'm in the clear, but I would rather have had some tests done to confirm it.  He again said, "Ok, I'll see you in two months."  LOL... this doctor really does not want to spend time with me.  

My next question for him was what happens going forward.  I'll see him in January (he's taking December off it seems).  Then again every four months for couple of years, and then every 6 months until the five year mark.  Blood tests at each follow-up to make sure things like my liver and kidney functions are good.  

I had a few other questions before I finally decided to let the doctor go.  The whole discussion with him probably was like 5-10 minutes after a two hour wait.  It used to be that even though we paid a lot for health care in the US, it would at least be good care.  I'm starting to feel like health care in this country is slipping while prices keep rising.  

First Oncology Consult and Oncotype Result

I had my first consult with an oncologist today and I received my oncotype, which typically takes about 2 weeks to get after surgery. Oncotype DX is a genomic test used to determine the recurrence rate in early-stage hormone-positive (HR+) breast cancer.  It works by analyzing the expressions of 21 genes in a sample of tumor tissue.  The score ranges from 0 to 100, with a higher score indicating a greater likelihood of recurrence.  It also helps determine treatment decisions based on the patient's risk.

If a patient's oncotype score is 15 or less, chemotherapy is not likely to benefit the patient and is not recommended.  A score of 26 or higher indicates chemotherapy is likely to benefit the patient and would be recommended.  An oncotype score of 16-25 is a gray area and the decision to do chemotherapy is made on a case-by-case basis.  My oncotype was 17.  There was no mention of chemotherapy until today, so I was a little shook to find that the possibility of having to do chemo was there all along.  

I got four oncotype results:

1. Node negative
• Distanct Recurrence Risk at 9 years = 5% with AI or Tamoxifen
• Chemo benefit = < 1%
2. Node positive (Premenopausal)
• Distanct Recurrence Risk at 9 years = 7% with AI or Tamoxifen
• Chemo benefit = 2.7%
3. Node positive (Postmenopausal)
• Distanct Recurrence Risk at 9 years = 4% with AI or Tamoxifen
• Chemo benefit = None (<1%)
4. Node Postivie (>= 4)
• Distanct Recurrence Risk at 9 years = 49% 😱with AI or Tamoxifen

Although the surgeon and oncolgist think that it's not likely that my cancer had spread to my lymph nodes, we did not confirm it with a lymph node biopsy.  So assuming a scenario where it may have spread to 1-3 nodes, I would fall into category #2 above.  With a chemo benefit of 2.7%, the oncologist didn't recommend chemotherapy for me.

While I escaped the worst of the treatments, radiation and medication (Tamoxifen) were still on the table.  I still did not want to do either of these treatments.  From what I understood, each of these treatments alone would reduce my risk of recurrence by 50%, so not insignificant.  Without Tamoxifen my recurrence rate is ~15% (it was unclear if that was with or without radiation).  My initial thought was that 15% chance seemed low enough.  I also felt as though I'm a fairly lucky person (ignoring the fact that I got cancer).  Then my oncologist asked, "I know you like to travel.  If you had a 15% chance of crashing, would you get on that plane?" Then he went on to tell me how unplesant metastatic breast cancer is.  Breast cancer typically spreads to the bones, lungs, liver, and brain.  Bone cancer may lead to severe pain.  Lung cancer may lead to difficulty breathing and chest pain. Liver cancer would lead to abdominal pain and loss of essential functions by the liver.  Brain cancer can lead to headaches, seizures, and other neurological problems affecting daily function.  All of these would affect a person's quality of life.  I wasn't afraid of dying but I was afraid of living a life of low quality.  Now he had me scared.  While I did not want to do these treatments, I had not ruled them out entirely.  I was going to make decisions on them after seeing the doctors about them.  I had a consult with the radiology oncologist coming up.  The oncologist recommended that I at least do the radiation, and then think on the Tamoxifen.